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Oklahoma Lawmaker Defends "Spilled Semen" Amendment

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A Democratic lawmaker on Thursday defended her satirical amendment to an anti-abortion bill that would outlaw Onanism in Oklahoma.

A proposed “personhood” bill in Oklahoma would define human life as beginning at the moment of conception. In response, Oklahoma State Sen. Constance Johnson tried to amend the legislation to make it illegal for men to spill their seed outside a woman’s vagina.

“As a woman and a 31-year veteran of the legislative process in Oklahoma, I am increasingly offended by state law trends that solely focus on the female’s role in the reproductive process,” she explained on The Guardian. “With Oklahoma’s new, never-before-experienced Republican majority, we are seeing enactment of more and more measures that adversely affect women and their rights to access safe medical procedures when making reproductive healthcare decisions. ”

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Robert Bartholomew

Christ! I hope the Hague doesn't incorporate this type of behavior into what qualifies as a war crime.

I'd be guilty of the mass murder of hundreds of millions of "potential" humans in my day.

  • 65 votes
#1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:04 AM EST
HappyToSeeYa

hypothetically musing: if the satirical amendment became law, how would it be enforced?

  • 30 votes
#1.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:49 AM EST
Jonathan-1917156

Well it would outlaw masturbation, oral sex, anal sex, pearl necklaces, ejaculating on a womans face and most of all, any homosexual activity (it would probably outlaw lesbianism too because there the woman isn't making her vagina an available receptacle). I mean, could it get any better for the radical right?

They should be jumping for joy about this amendment.

  • 36 votes
#1.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:52 AM EST
DisplayName0

This nation is overrun with spermicidal manics! It's genocide.

  • 39 votes
#1.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:02 AM EST
michelle-1073610

"What's good for the goose, is good for the gander."

  • 24 votes
#1.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:26 AM EST
wooden

Haha it's basically throwing the whole birth at conception view out the window. If they want to say life begins at conception why not say it starts at ejaculation. One can't happen withoput the other. Good play representative.

  • 40 votes
#1.5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:30 AM EST
HappyToSeeYa

Jonathan-1917156

Well it would outlaw masturbation, oral sex, anal sex, pearl necklaces, ejaculating on a womans face and most of all, any homosexual activity (it would probably outlaw lesbianism too because there the woman isn't making her vagina an available receptacle). I mean, could it get any better for the radical right?

again, who would enforce a law against this behavior and how would the law be enforced? I think that we might both agree 'small' government would have to have a large bedroom corps of police for enforcement.

  • 13 votes
#1.6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:03 AM EST
Uthaclena

HappyToSeeYa

hypothetically musing: if the satirical amendment became law, how would it be enforced?

With a firm hand, undoubtedly...

  • 47 votes
#1.7 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:08 AM EST
DisplayName0

Simple. Neighborhood watch programs already exist; appoint highly skilled peeping toms as leaders then make curtains illegal.

  • 38 votes
#1.8 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:08 AM EST
Fla Pat

If this passes can you imagine the additional pressure placed on teenage boys? They would be unable to get a good night's sleep! Also would they be required to turn themselves in if they did experience nocturnal emmissions? I think bed sheets would start to go missing.

  • 27 votes
#1.9 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:18 AM EST
DonVito

Way to go Senator Johnson! You've trumped the absurdity. Unfortunately, I am certain that several of the "Parenthood" Nazis will try to adopt it and make it their own ("Why didn't we think of that?").

  • 26 votes
#1.10 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:18 AM EST
jwc2blue

if the satirical amendment became law, how would it be enforced?

Cum cops?? "Citizen! Get your hands where I can see them!!"

  • 33 votes
#1.11 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:23 AM EST
DisplayName0

"Oh geez, we got here too late. Call the morgue. Oh, the humanity."

  • 31 votes
#1.12 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:31 AM EST
jwc2blue

"Someone get a sponge, maybe we can still save them!!"

"Damn you! That's a Today sponge!!"

  • 33 votes
#1.13 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:34 AM EST
DisplayName0

"Rookies..."

  • 18 votes
#1.14 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:35 AM EST
bonos_rama

This nation is overrun with spermicidal manics! It's genocide.

LMAO!!

But I'm glad to see Sen. Johnson doing this. For quite some time now I've said the same thing - that if life is sacred and abortion needs to be outlawed, than so does male masturbation. Nobody can deny that sperm cells carry human DNA, are living, and are somehow intelligent enough to know they have to swim to and penetrate an egg. Killing off sperm cells through masturbation or sodomy denies potential life. And if a person is religious, they are denying "God" the right to decide whether a particular sperm cell gets to live.

If women's reproductive choices are to be denied, so should men's.

  • 29 votes
#1.15 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:38 AM EST
Emmadadog

I guess all this amendment would leave is: git it up, git it in, git it off, git it out, git your pants on and git on with your life.

But, Constance Johnson deserves a huge vote up for at least pointing out the hypocrisy of Kochsucking Oklahoma.

  • 26 votes
#1.16 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:40 AM EST
whatthetruth52

Well I agree... I mean that is in the bible... Masturbation is a sin against god.. If this idiots want to be technical then "spilling seed" is as bad or worse than an abortion. it should be fought with the same zeal that these idiots fight abortion. But they won't do that as it would actually put responsibility on the man and they wouldn't be able to get BJ's any longer...

  • 18 votes
#1.17 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:42 AM EST
madvargr

if the satirical amendment became law, how would it be enforced?

The same way all of the GOP's moronic "No Lawyer left Behind" laws will be - they won't be after all of the legal battles are over. Meanwhile, a few Republican lawyers are going to be very wealthy trying to defend all their ignorant bull@!$%# in court.

More women voted than men in the last election - the GOP has royally @!$%#ed themselves after the past 2 years of their Christian Jihad against women.

  • 17 votes
#1.18 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:48 AM EST
bonos_rama

again, who would enforce a law against this behavior and how would the law be enforced? I think that we might both agree 'small' government would have to have a large bedroom corps of police for enforcement.

It wouldn't be easy, but it also wouldn't be impossible. The first and most obvious thing to do is outlaw porn as contribution to masturbation (spilling seed). It's no worse than outlawing drug paraphernalia like bongs; just classify porn as masturbatory paraphernalia, the possession of which gets the same kind of punishment that possessing drug paraphernalia does. Aside from that, you'd need photographic evidence or a confession by a male that he engaged in illicit behavior in order to prosecute. And of course if DNA "evidence" is found (in a hotel/motel room, movie theater, etc.) and traced to a man, that's surefire evidence of spilling seed.

Pretty sick and draconian, eh? Well, no more sick and draconian than telling a woman what to do with HER body.

  • 20 votes
#1.19 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:52 AM EST
Jonathan-1917156

HappyToSeeYou.

Glad to see that sarcasm is just totally lost on you.

  • 6 votes
#1.20 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:11 AM EST
Glo25420

Wow, last month Oklahoma had to propose a law outlawing aborted fetuses in the food supply, and this month they had to propose a law outlawing the casual murder of unborn babies by their men. Oklahoma sounds like a regular den of inequity.

  • 15 votes
#1.21 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:52 AM EST
smeagol likes raw fishes

"EV-ery sperm is SAC-red! EV-ery sperm is good! IF a sperm is wast-ed, GOD get's quite irate!"

( angelic lyrics sung by Charles Dickins inspired children characters in 'The Meaning of Life' by Monty Python )

  • 14 votes
#1.22 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:03 AM EST
Door King

"I'd be guilty of the mass murder of hundreds of millions of "potential" humans in my day."

You're like 100?

  • 5 votes
#1.23 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:10 AM EST
HappyToSeeYa

Jonathan-1917156

HappyToSeeYou.

Glad to see that sarcasm is just totally lost on you.

Instead of other folks taking a negative swipe at my comments, they are having fun with the sexual innuendo of it all. Lighten up and join in on the fun!

  • 9 votes
#1.24 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:54 AM EST
DisplayName0

Happy,

I was kind of wondering if I read you comment wrong after reading the reaction; seems my first impression was correct. Playing along is good. Have a good weekend.

  • 9 votes
#1.25 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:07 PM EST
truthseeker9000

Glo25420

Wow, last month Oklahoma had to propose a law outlawing aborted fetuses in the food supply, and this month they had to propose a law outlawing the casual murder of unborn babies by their men. Oklahoma sounds like a regular den of inequity.

Glo, you seemed to have missed the point of the article. Being a resident of Oklahoma, I'm glad there are politicians here willing to stand up to the hypocrisy of Republicans in power more concerened with imposing their religious beliefs on us rather than fix the issues they were elected to fix.

  • 6 votes
#1.26 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:29 PM EST
John Bayner

Maybe I should finally discard that old towel I've been using for self gratification.

It's so laced with sperm corpses that it stands on it's own.

  • 7 votes
#1.27 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:33 PM EST
DisplayName0

Is it more like a casket, a death shroud or just a old towel?

  • 7 votes
#1.28 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:39 PM EST
Zoolopolis

Monty Python, the font of all wisdom.

"EV-ery sperm is SAC-red! EV-ery sperm is good! IF a sperm is wast-ed, GOD get's quite irate!"

( angelic lyrics sung by Charles Dickins inspired children characters in 'The Meaning of Life' by Monty Python )

5!
#1.22

  • 7 votes
#1.29 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:53 PM EST
DisplayName0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk4Ntcq5uNg

  • 4 votes
#1.30 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:57 PM EST
Polka14

I hope this amendment remains as satirical. If not then they are promoting severe oppression against their male citizens that is obviously as equal as the oppression felt by female citizens. If this is satirical then it is good for conversation but if it is not then we can't fight oppression with more oppression. Of course all laws that violate any citizen's right to control his/her own body is a violation of that person's freedoms and the government has no right to pass laws that undermine this freedom.

Personhood USA, a Colorado-based Christian organization, hopes to get more "personhood" laws placed on several more state ballots this year.

Why I am not surprised?? Christians oppressing people again.

The first and most obvious thing to do is outlaw porn as contribution to masturbation

Of course. Continuously layering oppression on oppression. A layered cake of tyranny.

I'd be guilty of the mass murder of hundreds of millions of "potential" humans in my day.

You mean in a day. The average male holds 100 million sperm.

  • 7 votes
#1.31 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:00 PM EST
Jonathan-1917156

If not then they are promoting severe oppression against their male citizens that is obviously as equal as the oppression felt by female citizens.

Er um, that's the point.

It's not satirical as much as it is cynical.

  • 5 votes
#1.32 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:05 PM EST
Polka14

It's not satirical as much as it is cynical.

The article said "satirical".

  • 4 votes
#1.33 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:08 PM EST
Jonathan-1917156

I would think that the article is mislabeling it, but hey, this is the united states, we aren't to bright down here.

  • 6 votes
#1.34 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:16 PM EST
DisplayName0

I am not too bright so the distinction between satirical and cynical is probably real but I am to insensitive two it.:)

  • 4 votes
#1.35 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:27 PM EST
Jonathan-1917156

Jon Stewart is Satire, FoxNews is cynical.

  • 11 votes
#1.36 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:36 PM EST
Matt in MN

"Law of unintended consequences":

This will mean all gay men are guilty of violating this amendment. I could see the OK Republicans passing it for specifically that reason.

  • 4 votes
#1.37 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:39 PM EST
Mike-475880

if the satirical amendment became law, how would it be enforced?

I guess the same way they thought they could enforce sodomy laws

  • 8 votes
#1.38 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:01 PM EST
HappyToSeeYa

DisplayName0

Happy,

I was kind of wondering if I read you comment wrong after reading the reaction; seems my first impression was correct. Playing along is good. Have a good weekend.

Thank you, DisplayName0!

  • 5 votes
#1.39 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:35 PM EST
Santino42

how would it be enforced?

They would have to start a new task force obviously ;) So there's the CIA, FBI, DEA and now the EIA....

Ejaculatory Infanticide Agency.

Fighting the war against incorrectly used semen.

  • 8 votes
#1.40 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:38 PM EST
nolagrrl

It makes perfect right wing logic. Wikipedia 'homunculus.'

These idiots believe the complete human is carried in the sperm, and the egg is merely nourishment to let it grow.

Which explains the patent debasement of women and their rights. She is a vessel, nothing more.

Oh. And gawd chose each sperm individually. And allocated them to specific testicles.

So every sperm is sacred once it touches vagina. Because gawd might have a sperm locked and loaded for that egg. And its not up to a vessel to contradict gawd's will for that sperm. (which contains a perfectly formed human. Just REALLY tiny.)

It's not sacred if no vagina is involved. If gawd's sperm is ready, its your duty to plant it.

I am NOT making this up. Quiverful and its ilk use that concept as their dogmatic mandate.

See? It all makes perfect sense!

  • 9 votes
#1.41 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:39 PM EST
WoodieRae-3499404

So.....I wonder what the sentence would be for a million charges of wrongful pre-conceptual death....

Or maybe they'd levy the punishment on terminating just that one lucky little swimmer.

Seriously, though, I wonder how long before some ill-bred GOP suggests our reintroduction to the chastity belt, locked, with Congress' having the only key to unlock it, dealt out only after the marriage certificate was signed.

  • 4 votes
#1.42 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:09 PM EST
Santino42

Ejaculatory Infanticide Agency.

Fighting the war against incorrectly used semen.

Oops...forgot to add EIA's tagline...

We're cummin' for you :).

  • 8 votes
#1.43 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:26 PM EST
Tim S.-560036

Happy,

hypothetically musing: if the satirical amendment became law, how would it be enforced?

Reminds me of the old joke:

An elderly man is accompanied by his wife at a doctors visit. The doctor tells the man he needs a semen, urine, and fecal sample. The old man is hard of hearing and turns to his wife to ask what the doctor said. The wife replies -

He said he needs your underpants.

As for the amendment, fantastic move. It is time these idiots suffered the consequences of their actions.

  • 7 votes
#1.44 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:37 PM EST
DisplayName0

Somebody needs to get in touch with the Westboro Baptist Church; they're going to be some busy beavers with all these semen funerals.

  • 7 votes
#1.45 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:48 PM EST
L'EMPEREUR du POLE NORD

“With Oklahoma’s new, never-before-experienced Republican majority, we are seeing enactment of more and more measures that adversely affect women and their rights to access safe medical procedures when making reproductive healthcare decisions. ”

Is it any wonder these nutbags want laws like this. The TeaNutters in Oklahoma and Kansas are racing to the bottom of the heap with LACK OF INTELLIGENCE.

No wonder they refuse to believe in evolution, they are going backwards in intelligence. They probably believe 'creationism' means going backwards. No wonder they claim that Jesus rode dinosaurs. What would God think about people going backwards.

Geez, stupitity in running full speed ahead in the bible-belt.

  • 7 votes
#1.46 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:00 PM EST
CapnJohnSmith

How many beavers are in the Westboro Baptist Church?
And are they au naturel or petite trimmed?
Just curious...

  • 5 votes
#1.47 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:05 PM EST
DisplayName0

Capt,

Ever seen hitler's mustache? Kind of like that.

  • 6 votes
#1.48 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:07 PM EST
paul kennedy

Come down, folks. Some of you seem to be getting rubbed the wrong way.

  • 6 votes
#1.49 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:22 PM EST
paul kennedy

Oops. I meant "calm down." Freudian slip. My bad.

  • 2 votes
#1.50 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:31 PM EST
canary-in-the-coal-mine

Isn't Oklahoma (with the wind whistling down the plain) the home of Rectal Roberts University and correspondence law school?

  • 6 votes
#1.51 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:49 PM EST
AJ in Missouri

That would be the first potential Freudian slip that could possibly result in many "potential people" deaths...you're an evil one /s

  • 4 votes
#1.52 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:50 PM EST
petridishofideas

This will mean all gay men are guilty of violating this amendment. I could see the OK Republicans passing it for specifically that reason.

But you have to keep in mind there are a whole lot of rethugliCONs who are closeted gays. linsey graham and icky ricky santorium come across as 2 but we can probably come up with a few hundred others.....

And condoms will be banned......but will diaphrams. Says the sperm must be in a woman's vagina but she can use protection. Personally I would prefeer the penis shhredding female condoms used in Africa. Especially if the male is a gNOp!

  • 3 votes
#1.53 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:20 PM EST
Ditto

I guess its now time to retire that age old expression, you know the one about a bird in the hand being worth 2 in the bush.

  • 4 votes
#1.54 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:43 PM EST
krounded

Well it would outlaw masturbation, oral sex, anal sex, pearl necklaces, ejaculating on a womans face and most of all, any homosexual activity

Haaaaa........Jonathan: That comment was great!

  • 3 votes
#1.55 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:00 PM EST
Arieus

Unfukken believable, one bill that will have an impact on many people, including men.

WTF is wrong with out country? Women, you better watch out, they are coming for you, and this only goes to show that government only views women as baby makers with no rights.

This is really going to put a big dent in the PORN, lube, flesh-light, and adult entertainment industry. No mo lap dances fer da dudes anymo at parties.

REVOLUTION 2012

  • 4 votes
#1.56 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:54 PM EST
littleboyblue

Senator Constance Johnson

Another biology-ignorant Democrat. She makes the case for humans evolving into monkeys.

    #1.57 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:15 PM EST
    Jonathan-1917156

    She makes more sense than the ignorant republican that tabled the original legislation.

    • 7 votes
    #1.58 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:23 PM EST
    Mofongo

    Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich will never support this. In fact there will need to be emergency shipments of saltpeter to the capitol building in Washington D.C. if this goes federal.

    • 4 votes
    #1.59 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:33 PM EST
    petridishofideas

    guess littleboy has lots to fear from that legislation. Hmmmmmmm.

    • 4 votes
    #1.60 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:49 AM EST
    Arieus

    Oklahoma Lawmaker Defends "Spilled Semen" Amendment

    Maybe Saintorum can collect the spilled samples and sample them to see who they belong to.

    bwahahahahahahahaha

    • 4 votes
    #1.61 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:38 PM EST
    GA Girl-718836

    Holly Crap on a cracker! I proposed something similar in a Contraceptive Rant on another thread!

    • 3 votes
    #1.62 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:48 AM EST
    Jim Davis, Veterans-For-Change

    amazing the insanity... of all the things they should be doing and could be doing this is what WE THE PEOPLE pay our government officials to do?

    • 4 votes
    #1.63 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:33 AM EST
    Jonathan-1917156

    amazing the insanity... of all the things they should be doing and could be doing this is what WE THE PEOPLE pay our government officials to do

    So you are fine with the original ignorant, regressive, womens rights removing legislation, yet you are against someone showing just how ignorant, regressive, womens rights removing the legislation actually is.

    WOW!!!!

    • 4 votes
    #1.64 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:16 AM EST
    Tim S.-560036

    Amazing isn't it Jonathan? Never ceases to depress.

    • 2 votes
    #1.65 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:01 PM EST
    Jonathan-1917156

    Personally I am always about balance, nothing too onerous on either side, This amendment just adds balance to an idiotic law. WOOT!!!

    • 3 votes
    #1.66 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:16 PM EST
    Jim Davis, Veterans-For-Change

    Jonathan & Tim S:

    NO that was NOT the part I was replying to… what I was addressing is the headline “Oklahoma Lawmaker Defends "Spilled Semen" Amendment”.

    But it’s so nice to know people will continue to read into comments things simply not there! Typical for Viner’s!

    • 1 vote
    #1.67 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:39 PM EST
    Jonathan-1917156

    yeah, and the 'spilled semen' amendment is an amendment to a bill that tries to outlaw a legal procedure by making anyone getting an abortion a murderer. So my comment stands. I knew EXACTLY what you were referring to. So if the original IGNORANT law wasn't tabled, there would have been no need for this person to come up with an equally ignorant amendment on the other side of the issue.

    • 4 votes
    #1.68 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:53 PM EST
    Tim S.-560036

    As does mine. It is wishful delusion to think this amendment was thought of in a vacuum instead of as a direct insult to the bill that existed at the time and to which it was an amendment. It was an in your face "@!$%# you" to the legislators that proposed the original bill. Nothing more, nothing less.

    But it is so nice to see viner's take things out of context to further their political agenda and sex based bigotry. I guess it is okay to pass laws to control women's bodies, but unacceptable to apply equally intrusive and oppressive laws to men.

    • 2 votes
    #1.69 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:02 PM EST
    Jonathan-1917156

    Tim

    we have gotten into some pretty heated arguments at times, but in this example, I am in 1000% complete agreement. It is sad what is happening in the nation today.

    • 3 votes
    #1.70 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:05 PM EST
    Tim S.-560036

    we have gotten into some pretty heated arguments at times

    To me most of those discussions have been more over nuance than fundamental differences. That is my perspective, anyway. And yes we both can be passionate over those nuances. (That is why you are blue to me)

    On this we are in 1000% agreement at all levels.

    • 2 votes
    #1.71 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:12 PM EST
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    UVA

    Well, the Koch Brothers got what they wanted!

    Government in America at all levels is a circus .... and a very bad one.

    • 23 votes
    Reply#2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:07 AM EST
    CPOSharkey

    I think that pointing out the blatant attack on women as she is, is absolutely priceless! I just wish that people were really paying attention!

    • 8 votes
    #2.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:36 PM EST
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    samenslow

    "Every sperm is sacred......."

    And we thought Monty Python was writing satire - not predicting the future/past.

    It was a good law to introduce, but unfortunately, there are many who believe it should pass.

    • 13 votes
    Reply#3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:16 AM EST
    bdebogota

    There is nothing at all satirical about this amendment. It is in response to a major health and grooming problem in Oklahoma. Too many men with hairy palms and who are going blind. Barber shops and vision centers are lobbying furiously to overturn this bill.

    • 24 votes
    Reply#4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:17 AM EST
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    Tom in NH-294381

    LOLOLOL............. You go girl!!! HAHAHAHAHA!

    • 11 votes
    Reply#7 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:26 AM EST
    hvymtl83

    Well, now we have the Republican "jobs, jobs, jobs" plan - huge numbers of Uterus and Sperm Police. On the plus side, we'll certainly have to end up with gov't sponsored "sperm receptacle stations" (aka, whorehouses) to prevent the unwanted spillage of sperm. "Free p*ssy", now there's a Republican talking point many of us can get into or behind or on top of, underneath, beside....

    • 14 votes
    Reply#8 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:31 AM EST
    voxrationis

    Nope. Sorry, Cancel that thought. Doubtful that procreative whorehouses would function very well. A reminder these people believe (or rather claim to believe) that is the only proper use for sex. A prostitute is not a proper receptacle.

    You think people are angry now! Wouldn't be long before there would be a mass seed spilling on the Statehouse steps. And whose going to clean that up!

    • 8 votes
    #8.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:09 AM EST
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    waukone

    The logic behind this is great - men don't have to kill sperm (don't masterbate) it is under their control. Women on the other hand have no choice in the matter therefore "sperm" is more important. If men control their sperm women wouldn't need abortions or contraceptives (except for medical reasons).

    Men should have an operation that controls their sperm. Inserting a little medical device should do the trick. Press the button and you have sperm, press the button and no sperm. This way men can truly have control over women.

    Medical community start focusing on men as the reasons abortions and contraceptives are needed. This is a great new business opportunity in which to earn billions. A law will be passed requiring every male to have this device installed as soon as they start producing sperm.

    With contraceptives under assault and the church's stand that they don't believe in contraception this little device might just be the answer. Not a sperm spilled or killed. Save a life.

    • 7 votes
    Reply#11 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:56 AM EST
    hvymtl83

    I still like my idea of gov't sponsored "sperm receptacle stations" better. We could even have a classy ad campaign with hot chicks in tight tee shirts that say "Save a sperm, Do me".

    • 8 votes
    #11.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:00 AM EST
    rls8r

    waukone - Yes, but then we'd have to pour even more money into research towards dealing with perhaps today's most underreported male affliction - ASB*

    - - -

    * Astronomical Semen Buildup

    • 9 votes
    #11.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:07 AM EST
    bonos_rama

    Men should have an operation that controls their sperm. Inserting a little medical device should do the trick. Press the button and you have sperm, press the button and no sperm. This way men can truly have control over women.

    I think male chastity belts are better. Ever see those things? No way is a guy getting a hard on comfortably in that thing. Perfect for calming those illicit urges. LOL

    • 10 votes
    #11.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:59 AM EST
    J. W. Welch

    waukone

    Push button sperm!! What a great idea.

    Can we get it in chocolate or vanilla?

    • 5 votes
    #11.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:51 PM EST
    CPOSharkey

    Nah, whenever you get an illicit urge, just send the boys on a suicide run!

    • 6 votes
    #11.5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:51 PM EST
    Tim S.-560036

    waukone

    The logic behind this is great - men don't have to kill sperm (don't masterbate) it is under their control.

    Nope this wouldn't cut it either. Sperm only last so long in the male body. They are either ejaculated or reabsorbed. So it would come down to proving you had sex with a fertile woman within that time period or you are guilty of spermicide.

    From Man Health Magazine Online.

    Each sperm spends 64 days growing into sperm, after which they move into the epidiymis (a 20 foot long series of thin coiled tubes) for another 12 days, where they gather and mature.

    If they have not been "used" by this time they are reabsorbed and replaced by the next generation of spermatozoa. But since this is a continuous process with the younger sperm filling the epididymis proximal to the testes and the older generations distal. One would have to find an ovulating female every day not to lose any potential offspring and comply with this amendment. If the sperm cycle and the menstrual cycle were designed to optimize reproduction between monogamous pairs, then God is the epitome of incompetence. 23 days out of every 28 results in a total waste of sperm. That is 82% of sperm are a complete waste and destine to die without ever attempting to fulfill their intended function.

    • 4 votes
    #11.6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:08 PM EST
    Jonathan-1917156

    hmm I think that they need to redo their studies, because the end number needs to be 69.

    • 4 votes
    #11.7 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:15 PM EST
    Tim S.-560036

    Spermatogenesis from Human Embryology:

    The approximate 64 day cycle of the spermatogenesis can be subdivided into four phases that last differing lengths of time:

    I have seen the 69 to 70 day period also. I believe the 5 or 6 day discrepancy is the lifespan of the mature spermatozoa in the epididymis. This is post spermatogenesis.

    • 2 votes
    #11.8 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:01 PM EST
    paul kennedy

    I don't know, waukone. Your suggestions raise some serious legal questions. Let's remember, sperm are just "little people" and their arbitrary confinement without due process is a violation of their constitutional rights.

    • 5 votes
    #11.9 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:47 PM EST
    canary-in-the-coal-mine

    bonos - a cold shower and a run around the block works just as well with little to no cost

    • 4 votes
    #11.10 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:52 PM EST
    paul kennedy

    And, of course:

    http://video.sina.com.cn/v/b/51220688-1405053100.html

    • 2 votes
    #11.11 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:53 PM EST
    canary-in-the-coal-mine

    cant get it to load

    • 2 votes
    #11.12 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:17 PM EST
    paul kennedy

    That's what she said.

    • 3 votes
    #11.13 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:29 PM EST
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    jupmod

    Seems some posters do not understand what 'satire' means. This lady politican is protesting quite loudly against the attack on women's health and women's rights. The Republicans of OK have gone too far in her opinion, so if these 'men' think it's okay to pass laws on what women can and can not do with their bodies, there should be laws to tell men what they should or should not do with their bodies. Equal footing all around. XD

    • 10 votes
    Reply#14 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:21 AM EST
    rls8r

    Yes, there are a few of these amendments afoot. We had one here in Virginia. Too bad it didn't go through - or make the case it was trying to make.

    • 10 votes
    #14.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:32 AM EST
    David-1830107

    All men?

    • 1 vote
    #14.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:35 AM EST
    bonos_rama

    All men?

    Well, are ALL women to be subject to the repeal of Roe v. Wade, or just a select few?

    • 12 votes
    #14.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:39 AM EST
    madvargr

    Just the poor - the 99%, bonos. People like Romney will be able to get them just fine.

    • 13 votes
    #14.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:49 AM EST
    David-1830107

    Bonos my question was is the entire Congress men. Or are there women too.

    • 1 vote
    #14.5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:05 PM EST
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    gregharris

    You know...the basic premise of the Tea Party Republicans is "less gov't...more individual freedom...less regulation"...remember that platform???..that got them elected in Congress..2010. Since then has anyone seen a program introduced by this Congress that limits Gov't, not expand it into your bedroom, or what you do by yourself under the covers??? This is the face of TYRANNY.

    • 17 votes
    Reply#15 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:52 AM EST
    3rdtime

    There was a second amendment made, too. It would require DNA testing of all newborns and obligate the father to cover all costs of the pregnancy, birth and raising the child to 18. (Yes, it, too, was struck down.)

    • 6 votes
    Reply#16 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:44 AM EST
    Idaho Dave-2760791

    I suspect most of you grew up in a city environment.  The enforcement of which you speak was part of growing up around here (Idaho).  Young men were (and still are) kept from entering certain colleges or going on religious missions if they admitted to "doing the deed".  Interviews with religious leaders broached the topic regularly.  And I understand Catholic Priests encounter this admission in confession all the time.

    And don't forget that both the Post and Kellogg breakfast cereal companies were created to fight this "evil".

    • 3 votes
    Reply#17 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:53 AM EST
    rls8r

    Don't worry. You'll eventially have to face your Maker and pay for this "evil". See, for example, this preacher's explanation (pay attention to the explanation following the 2:15 mark, and especially between 3:55 and 4:15).

    • 5 votes
    #17.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:07 AM EST
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    Bourgeois Hillbilly

    Atta Girl...Hit the Good 'Ol Boys where they hurt the most, in their good 'ol you know what. Excellent idea for an amendment. I also think they should add an amendment limiting them to how many marriages they can have, say two? Might change their minds when it comes to being the moral monitors for the notion of what 'marriage' is as well....and I love the fact the Senator's last name is 'Johnson'...apropos!

    • 6 votes
    Reply#18 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:40 AM EST
    canary-in-the-coal-mine

    and his nickname is "Big" - BIG JOHNSON... There's lot of things you can do with BIG JOHNSON!

    • 2 votes
    #18.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:55 PM EST
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    rick-2988168

    hmmmmm...and what would be the penalty for being caught and convicted?

    • 3 votes
    Reply#19 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:46 AM EST
    Jonathan-1917156

    You will have to marry Loreena Bobbitt?, or just maybe a routine bobbitting?

    • 2 votes
    #19.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:47 AM EST
    YELLOW DOG D.

    I think 'Welcome to the Monkey House' by K. Vonnegut would be next for Oklahoma and religious baggers.

    • 3 votes
    #19.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:30 PM EST
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    tmac-425222

    I'm opening a penile correctional facility. Should do quite well!

    • 5 votes
    Reply#20 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:52 AM EST
    Jonathan-1917156

    is that your way of saying you are going to open up an S&M house?

    • 5 votes
    #20.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:54 AM EST
    tmac-425222

    I'm trying to think bigger here! The profit motive!

    • 4 votes
    #20.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:04 PM EST
    Jonathan-1917156

    An S&M factory? unrepentant man enters in one side, gets put on a conveyer, from which all sorts of penile correctional actions will be conducted, to come out the other side, all 'corrected'?

    • 4 votes
    #20.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:05 PM EST
    canary-in-the-coal-mine

    whip it into shape...

    • 3 votes
    #20.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:56 PM EST
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    Michael in S J

    If they want to say life begins at conception why not say it starts at ejaculation. One can't happen withoput the other.

    Really! You haven't heard about the immaculate conception?

    /s

    • 3 votes
    Reply#21 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:24 PM EST
    Rockwater-1211171

    That, actually, was a mistranslation. Really it's immaculate DEception.

    • 4 votes
    #21.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:33 PM EST
    rls8r

    Let's not forget the Immaculate REception.

    • 3 votes
    #21.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:12 PM EST
    Michael in S J

    I'll make the appropriate notes in my list of magical statements!

    • 3 votes
    #21.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:31 PM EST
    canary-in-the-coal-mine

    immaculate - whatever - when she stands up it STILL drips out

    • 4 votes
    #21.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:57 PM EST
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    truthseeker9000

    Being a resident of Oklahoma, I'm glad there are politicians here willing to stand up to the hypocrisy of Republicans in power more concerened with imposing their religious beliefs on us rather than fix the issues they were elected to fix.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#22 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:30 PM EST
    concerned-in-ohio

    This is much ado about nothing new, when magnifing glasses were invented and sperm discovered, they thought the sperm were little people that grew up to become babies in the mother. The clergy at the time became very upset about all the souls being lost and what could be done to prevent the loss. So here we are basically hung up on the same augument. Perhaps this why the church is so afraid of science (knowledge)

    • 1 vote
    Reply#23 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:34 PM EST
    rls8r

    The homunculus portion of preformationism. The Republicans/TEA party folks are trying to resurrect creationism, so why not this?

    • 4 votes
    #23.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:15 PM EST
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    RobPlumley

    The people of Oklahoma are great, and this one nut-case (and his cohorts) is not a reflection of you all. However, you need to vote these clowns out of office, or at least shower them with angry letters and emails about their behavior, and your dissatisfaction with their continually obsession over women's reproductive system or their general health. Tell them to focus on the economy or be prepared to pack up and vacate.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#24 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:23 PM EST
    Jonathan-1917156

    and when people don't understand that the people that they elect is essentially a reflection on them, they will continue to elect these idiots.

    • 3 votes
    #24.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:24 PM EST
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    shepherd0886

    I truly understand her intent in proposing this amendment. However the frightening thing is that there are enough nut cases out there that it could actually pass and become law. The next thing would be a legislation that would require the castration of all liberals and only conservatives would be allowed to breed and have a harem of females with which to do it. Lets see, we have Santorum who would probably support that and Romney with his Morman background just might as well. Oh and good old Newt would jump for joy because that would mean more for him.

    I still have to ask the question "what on earth does all of this sexual discussion have to do with the state of this nation's economy?" Put a sock in it and get out of our bedrooms and personal lives and do the damn job you were elected to do. Stop the wars in the Middle East and against drugs, terminate Homeland Security and the TSA, start fixing our nation's infrastructure, and put America's middle class back to work. Either lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#25 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:53 PM EST
    Jonathan-1917156

    and if it became law, it would be no more frightening than the abortion law that it is an amendment to become law.

    That was the point. It was a frightening amendment to a frightening bill, unless you think the destruction of womens rights isn't frightening.

    • 4 votes
    #25.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:56 PM EST
    shepherd0886

    Jonathon I happen to be very much pro-choice and believe strongly in women's rights. Frankly I cannot imagine any right thinking American woman ever voting for any of these nimrods. LOL However I do feel that our national ship is sinking and our political leadership is wasting time discussing the color scheme for the ward room and how to redecorate the staterooms.

    In other words all of the nonsense they are spouting in their campaigns will be totally irrelevant if America sinks to the bottom with all of us aboard. As I said in my comment at #25 they need to start telling the voters how they plan to accomplish what they have been elected to do and quit wasting time discussing the human reproductive system and sexual mores. They are what they are and no amount of legislation is going to change them. Those are just emotional issues to rile up the voters and distract them from the candidate's political shortcomings. Nothing more, nothing less.

    • 1 vote
    #25.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:57 PM EST
    Jonathan-1917156

    Then instead of tabling abortion restriction legislation, they should be tabling bills that will help actually improve the business environment.

    The problem is that this particular amendment may be silly, but that is actually the point. It was an amendment to combat the actual legislation whose sole purpose is to make abortion illegal.

    So while you may criticize the woman that tabled this amendment, why not the criticism for the tabling of the bill in the first place. If we don't do that, then we will end up with our rights completely eroded before long.

    The radical right isn't hiding their agenda, we need to combat it.

    • 2 votes
    #25.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:30 PM EST
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    J. W. Welch

    With all the goofy laws being proposed at the state and national level these days it seems like some university would jump at the chance to conduct an in depth study of the causes and manifestations of psychosis in public office.

    Is there a correlation between public office, the contemporary republican party, pretensions to religiosity and mental illness as the legislation under discussion suggests?

    • 4 votes
    Reply#28 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:05 PM EST
    rwalker-2504195

    All I can say is Oy Vey!

    • 3 votes
    Reply#29 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:18 PM EST
    RT-36

    This is kinda graphic- but some people like this....

    What happens in the event of a 'Creampie'?

    In straight pornography, intercourse is traditionally followed by a facial or other visible ejaculation.[3] Creampie scenes depart from heterosexual pornographic convention in favour of a depiction that more closely mimics sexual intercourse as performed in ordinary life;[3] they have been called the "counterimage" of facials.[1] Following perhaps the example set by gay pornography, they have become a popular subgenre within heterosexual pornography since the turn of the century, featuring both vaginal and anal ejaculations.[3][6][8] In some creampie films, both gay and straight, intercourse and internal ejaculation are followed by performers licking up the semen that has dripped from their bodies.[6] Some pornographic films use an artificial semen substitute to simulate or enhance creampie shots.[2][4]

    Sorry if you find this offensive- but it's relevant.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#30 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:38 PM EST
    Jonathan-1917156

    in that case,

    OFF WITH THE HEAD!!!, Bobbit style.

    • 2 votes
    #30.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:40 PM EST
    YELLOW DOG D.

    The proposed Okie amendment means you could charge 'spitters' with accessory to murder.

    • 6 votes
    #30.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:00 PM EST
    shepherd0886

    Something tells me that this thread is degenerating a bit. LOL Please do remember that it is possible that some minors might be reading these comments. Ahem.

    • 1 vote
    #30.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:06 PM EST
    canary-in-the-coal-mine

    If they are old enough to read the comments then they are either old enough to understand the intent or young enough not to understand and then would go running to mommy or daddy with "questions". This is not a babysitting service

    • 3 votes
    #30.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:01 PM EST
    RT-36

    Please do remember that it is possible that some minors might be reading these comments. Ahem.

    Well, adults should be monitoring their kids. Is this a site you let your kids frequent? Don't make someone else's poor parenting my problem.

    My comment is relevant. Funny, certainly adult, but still relevant.

    • 3 votes
    #30.5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:04 PM EST
    Tim S.-560036

    Please do remember that it is possible that some minors might be reading these comments. Ahem.

    It is not my job to parent these kids. The same goes for music, tv, and life in general. Besides encouraging ignorance should be a crime. Reckless endangerment of a minor.

    • 2 votes
    #30.6 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:16 PM EST
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    Conservative Not NeoCon

    Great, now I have that Monty Python song "Every sperm is sacred" in my head.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#31 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:44 PM EST
    demo scout

    That is very funny, but I sort of wish you hadn't said it.

    • 3 votes
    #31.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:19 PM EST
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    demo scout

    Just when the right wing Christians thought they had run their anti-women reproductive policy out to it's logical conclusion, this very clever woman shows them that penises are a legitimate target too.

    Ouch, those good old boys and gals must be pondering what to do about this one. A lot of celibate clergymen and bible thumper humpers may become instant outlaws in OK.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#32 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:16 PM EST
    Spike Eng2

    The imaginary line between Church and State is blurring and to what end ? Mega Church America ? Doubt if that will end well.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#33 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:46 PM EST
    rwalker-2504195

    1st State Bank of Jesus and Mega Buffet :) I stole that from a friend of mine. We won't even talk about communion...just use your imagination.

    • 1 vote
    #33.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:49 PM EST
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