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Article Source: Democratic Underground Latest Breaking NewsKaren Handel, a former GOP candidate who ran on a pro-life platform, shows her true colors. She just happens to be Susan G. Komen’s Vice President of Public Policy now.
"Just like a pro-abortion group to turn a cancer orgs decision into a political bomb to throw. Cry me a freaking river"
Come on, Karen... Don't hold back. How do you really feel?
Oh, wait! I guess you just told us.
Komen has been seen as politically neutral in the past. I'm very sad that its mission has taken a radical right turn. Hopefully, the organization can fix this and return to neutral.
Well, we knew this all along, I don't know why they want to play us like we're stupid (with all of the excuses), I would have had more respect if they just leveled with everyone.
I probably would have just ignored them in the future, now I will actively campaign against them.
Me too. I plan on contacting any business that is involved in the pink ribbon campaign to let them know that I will not buy their products. It is clear that this is a charity with an agenda, and the agenda has nothing to do with women or breast health.
Fringe right wing from top to bottom.
Oh you don't have half as many donations as before because you turned your organization into a pro-life mouthpiece...cry ME a river. Hope you can spend all those pink ribbons because you sure as hell won't be spending MY money.
Example of Teabaggerification of US.
This money wasn't even for abortions, it was for breast exams. Makes sense for it to come from group fighting breast cancer. But no, logic and facts have no place in Teabagiverse. That requires more evolved mind than chimp's.
Should have Teabaggers in National Geographic?
Should have Teabaggers in National Geographic?
No they shouldn't. Then I will have to look at their smug faces every month. Just send em' all to the moon. They can start building our moon base.
Hey, good morning Robert, here's a great quote from Ms C's seed this morning, I hope you don't mind if I share it with everyone;
Planned Parenthood keeps its focus on women's health, plain and simple, and includes abortion as part of that comprehensive approach. It doesn't try to gussy up health issues, or prettify them, or politicize them. It's the other side that does the politicizing. Maybe the outrage will make other organizations think twice before they stab a beloved health organization in the back the way Komen has done.
http://mscyprah.newsvine.com/_news/2012/02/03/10308793-6-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-komen-foundationplanned-parenthood-controversy
There is way more to this than abortion. Planned Parenthood has done an excellent job of hiding behind the politics of abortion, however while so many want to ignore the fact of all the lawsuits that are piling up against Planned Parenthood, coast to coast, not connected yet very similar, demonstrating the poor leadership and misguided direction of the organization. As the light of truth continues to expose the darkness inside Planned Parenthood, I suspect many here who are so upset with this decision will find themselves in the same position, not wanting to be seen as associating with the criminal behavior and extremely poor judgment Planned Parenthood has participated in.
Since you provided no proof of anything I decided to check for myself. You'e right that there are a lot of lawsuits but they are being filed BY PP against some states new, yet archaic, abortion related laws. The only thing I could find other than that were all on pro-life websites (all two of them) and were the typical type of lawsuits you see related to healthcare providers. Given the amount of people PP services it's a pittance. A typical hospital system deals with hundreds a year.
Should have Teabaggers in National Geographic?
No they shouldn't. Then I will have to look at their smug faces every month. Just send em' all to the moon. They can start building our moon base.
No just send them to cheese factory. They'll think they're on Moon.
Each item you buy helps give free mammograms administered by clinics and hospitals.
PINK RIBBON merchandise floods the market...sneakers, hats, bracelets, pins, watches, Estee Lauder Makeup, teddy bears, yogurt, .....
Ridiculous to think that all these marketing schemes are helpful to the woman who need preventive healthcare the most when Komen nixed Planned Parenthood.
Once the public sees those pink ribbons on the bizarre multiple endorsements that the Pink Ribbon campaign has...their 1st thought will be....oh, a political agenda.
Common Sense Mike
Perhaps you depend on Google to have all the current court records coast to coast, but that's not the case.You may feel the need to defend Planned Parenthood and their decision to help a 14 year old who was carrying her fathers child get an abortion, and then sending her back with her father so he could continue sexually abusing the child, without contacting authorities?
Present a sampling of the cases that you describe in order to inform us instead of providing anecdotes about what you think that you know.
Don't think for a minute that the koch industry and their partnership of sgk has NOTHING to do with sgk saying bphs in plastic has NOTHING to do with cancer. Yea. RIGHT! Now they have been peoven to be liars, all their mouthings have beocome questionable!
Nothing like a NON PROFIT taking onto its board a LOSER cut rate Polititian who couldn't cut it in Politics. So Handel takes her politics to the Non profit company who will now LOSE millions in donations, because those who supported them see through their political agenda.
I hope they fire her and others on their board, obviously they have LOST FOCUS of what their agenda is, and that was to help the underserved women who they just threw UNDER the bus, for the out of focus political agenda.
The right wing is like Cancer; it will absolutely spread. And also like Cancer, it moves along in stealth until 'BAM', stage FOUR.
The best treatment is early detection, and immediate removal; this, Komen did not do...Now Komen has to MOON-WALK the backlash! A thorough house cleaning is in order for this organization...
Cry me a river?
Do these people not know that any Tweet goes directly to the person you'd most want to miss it?
She's the designated scapegoat. LOL
Let's watch all that 93 million very carefully. Some Republicans in there, now. Some how things'll get twisted and Komen money will be paying for "Christian Parenting Counseling"
Seriously, a pox on all those responsible for this sham.
I'd rather throw frozen tomatos at them...
breaking news: komen reverses decision to defund planned parenthood.....
Is the pink ribbon symbol exclusive of Komen? I ask before I take mine off by mistake.
Cry you a river, not really a river. Your organizations politically based decision to halt funding to PP, will get you up the creek without a paddle. Please folks send your donations directly to PP, a lot of women's lives depend on it.
At this point, I consider Komen's organization to be very hateful, corrupt and evil. I'll never consider supporting them or aiding them in any way in the future unless they change their views on Female Rights.
Abortion is not illegal. Planned Parenthood does not do abortions itself but will advise clients of all of their options. THAT'S why they are withdrawing support for Planned Parenthood. If they didn't advise clients of all options, they would not be a PUBLIC agency.
So what do you do in cases of incest or rape? I would personally feel it is not my right to make that decision for a woman. I would support a woman's right to be advised of all options. But it is HER choice over her body and reproductive rights. And that is the only way to operate fairly as a public agency.
You may feel the need to defend Planned Parenthood and their decision to help a 14 year old who was carrying her fathers child get an abortion, and then sending her back with her father so he could continue sexually abusing the child, without contacting authorities? As for me, I am waiting for all of these lawsuits to hit the court rooms, expecting to see the organization exposed. This is one of the first cases coming forward, but there are hundreds like it waiting in the wings.
Perhaps you need to pony up the case you are talking about. Here's a shocker for you. People lie. PP, or any healthcare provider, is not required to do DNA test or any other type of testing to prove whose child it is. If the girl and father lie there's nothing they can do about it. You also fail to mention the huge amount of cases PP has helped abused young girls. You also fail to mention that PP has never been found to be doing anything criminal in a court room.
Planned Parenthood does not do abortions itself but will advise clients of all of their options.
Uh, that's not true at all. PP does abortions in their clinics. I fully support PP but let's keep the facts straight.
I don't want to be particularly picky, but that "Cry me a freaking river" quote came from Jade Morey, not from Karen Handel !!
However, I think Komen lost lots of credibility with Handel's decision.
PP does abortions in their clinics...
Not all of the clinics do abortions. But they do offer referral services. Such is the system where I live. Most abortions are performed in a hospital that specializes in female patients.
I loved one of the comments by one of the people on moveon.org. They said they had a fertilized chicken egg for breakfast that morning and it was no more a chicken than a fertilized human egg was a human being. I thought that was quite true.
This is a rabid discussion? I thought rabid was what went on at the republican debates.
Linda
There is even a rabid Republican focused website at www.rabidrepublicanblog.com.
I "bolded" the rabid portion of the URL just so are Republican friends here could read it easier.
You are right Walt, Jade Morey sent the tweet and Karen Handel sent it as a retweet. Handel deleted last night.
Only one more thing left to say;
Karen Handel "Who's crying now? Who's crying now?"....
I gave them a truck a few years ago that sold for $1400 bucks. I won't do that again. There are other cancer charities out there that actually believe that saving lives doesn't end at birth.
I don't want to be particularly picky, but that "Cry me a freaking river" quote came from Jade Morey, not from Karen Handel !!
However, I think Komen lost lots of credibility with Handel's decision.
You're quite right, but Handel retweeted it. I saw it on her twitter. She has since deleted it.
Not all of the clinics do abortions. But they do offer referral services. Such is the system where I live. Most abortions are performed in a hospital that specializes in female patients.
Yes, you're quite right. They don't all do it but many do. The one in my home city of Providence does for example.
Anyone else notice that Common Sense Mike has never responded with any kind of documentation to back up his "point"?
Michelle-340891
Anyone else notice that Common Sense Mike has never responded with any kind of documentation to back up his "point"?
Well, I kind of stopped paying attention to Common Sense Mike because of the behavior you speak to. This is how the person behind that user name operates. The will pop into a conversation, say something quite small and mean, inform us of their baseless opinions, but not once come back with evidence to back their claims. At this point I’m guessing they just like to tell themselves that those who supply facts are somehow suspect and/or they are paid to troll.
Sorry if I biffed CoH there...
"Just like a pro-abortion group to turn a cancer orgs decision into a political bomb to throw. Cry me a freaking river"
I think that pretty well sums up what I saw. Although I have no idea if she made the statement.
At this point I’m guessing they just like to tell themselves that those who supply facts are somehow suspect and/or they are paid to troll.
You are quite right, I've done several seeds and articles on the subject of paid trolls and that individual meets the profile.
One positive is that the truth saw the light of day in this ugly episode. The Susan B. Komen Foundation is a right wing political organization. Even if they reversed their decision once they saw the hit their pocketbook was about to take, they were following the lead of a foot soldier in the GOP's war on women's rights. Planned Parenthood is the health and reproductive services provider to millions of low income women. I usually support other charitable organizations, but will make a contribution to Planned Parenthood this year. One thing is for sure, I won't be buying anymore pink ribbon merchandise that sends a portion of their proceeds to the Komen Foundation.
What they do now (or pretend to do) will have little effect upon the many with whom they have completely burnt their bridges (over that "river" of tears). They attracted attention to themselves & many interesting facts have come out that will prevent many people from ever trusting them again.
TR,
Yep.
Not only that the trail leads right back right. In a very tight little circle. No plausible deniability. Just blatant manipulation of an now soiled icon.
Exactly as they intended no doubt. They really are destroyers in this way. This was a Bain Capital move, just translated to a non profit.
All that matters is the Right and their beliefs. Everyone else can just take a leap.
Just like a Pro-Life group to cut funding to their own cause for a political ploy. (Which is exactly what happened).
Cry ME a river, bitch.
LOL most of the women I saw getting upset about this on my social networks were Republicans. Looks like this idiot VP doesn't really care about individual liberty or screening for breast Cancer as much as she cares about her religious extremism. All of these anti-choice zealots are the antithesis to the personal liberty that the Republican Party claims to be for.
This is all just a sideshow distracting us from the real story. You see this whole farce is a pattern for certain people. They have been very successful in creating controversy that fuels the emotions of others. Once you tap into people's emotions you can access their psyche in a way that gives you much power over them. It doesn't even matter if the trigger is made up or real.
I hope your resume is updated, Ms. Handel. Because I think you are going to be needing another job tuit suite.
#2 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 6:56 AM ESTI hope Komen's entire organization has their resume updated as they will soon be outdated.
Give your money directly to Planned parenthood, simple.
I don't know if it will help, but I wrote to General Mills and told them I could do without their products. I got a very repectful letter saying they would get my letter to the appropriate people.
Ms. Handel's attitude is axiomatic of the GOP's War on Women.
Karma's a bitch Karen honey, maybe even a bigger bitch than you.
#4 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 7:35 AM ESTKarma's a bitch Karen honey, maybe even a bigger bitch than you.
I dunno about that! ;-)
jwc2blue, I feel a little dirty about it, but I so up voted your post in reference to the name calling. I really don’t like it, but dang it if you are not spot on. ;-)
A colossal error in judgment. Where I live literally thousands upon thousands run that big race each year, and endless $$ in contributions are made. I'll be interested in seeing just how dwindled those numbers will be the next one. Mixing politics into women's health issues is, well, disgraceful at best. Stupidity knows no bounds these days.
So long Komen Fdn. It was nice knowing you.
#5 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 7:39 AM ESTI actually withdrew from the race. Many of my sponsors gave me the money to give to our local PP. I am volunteering there as well.
Good for you! More need to, money is the only thing this bunch understands.
It will be interesting to see if any corporations will pull back on their support of Komen.
Gosh when an athlete runs into issue- say like Tiger Woods- he lost sponsorships left and right. Not good for business they say.
I hope corporate American wakes up. It might make THEM feel good to sponsor pink stuff, but does the money REALLY get to where it needs to go?
I tend to think that after watching the right wing wage a continuous war against Planned Parenthood with virtually no real blow back the Komen Foundation felt safe to do the same.
Oops!
It might make THEM feel good to sponsor pink stuff, but does the money REALLY get to where it needs to go?
Yeah, including some twisted pink stuff:
Discount Gun Sales is proud to team up with the Susan B. Koman Foundation to offer the Walther P-22 Hope Edition in recognition of Breast Cancer Awareness Month. A portion of each P-22 Hope Edition will be donated to the Seattle Branch of the Susan G. Komen Foundation.
http://gawker.com/5881982/susan-g-komen-foundation-kicks-off-pr-rehab-by-promoting-pink-handguns
nica1829
I actually withdrew from the race. Many of my sponsors gave me the money to give to our local PP. I am volunteering there as well.
Yes, my wife just did as well. She is an ardent supporter of women's health and rights. She has been doing the SKF marathons for years now, but no more. She made me proud today when she broke out the checkbook, wrote one out to PP and tossed her Pink Ribbon mementos into the trash can. Dang, I love that gal…
bontox, I have decided to fund the cancer research within the hospital I work for instead of returning to Komen funding. I will continue my support of PP, but will also do the volunteering.
Like any company - refuse to patronize them. No more money to this organization until they change their policy and remove the VP.
Power is in the purse, and we can do this.
#6 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 7:54 AM ESTYo, Karen, let me fix this for you.
Just like a right-wing nut job politician turned non-profit VP to turn a well-regarded charity into a political bastard child. Cry me a freaking river.
The day's coming when these people push so far, and so hard, that even their own supporters walk away.
#7 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 7:55 AM ESTRule number one in corporate America is "Protect the Brand", rule number two is "Never Forget Rule #1".
I think this brand is pretty much done...
Let's say that as of today the Komen group no longer can support an organization that provides abortion because they don't approve of abortion.
Why would those who have donated to Komen in the past stop donating ?
Don't such people demand a 'right' for themselves that they do not want to accord the Komen group?
Think about it.
#8 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 8:12 AM ESTThere's nothing to think about, Sam. In past 48 hours they've lied and lied and lied again. They've always presented themselves as an apolitical organization. Then they go and hire an avowed hater of PP as their Policy Director and drop PP. Then they lie about why. Then they change their tune and lie again. Then they claim it wasn't a politically motivated move while, literally, at the same time Handel is tweeting political rhetoric. Fact: no money SGK sent to PP went to abortions. It's for early screening for poor women.
Now, if a pro-life agenda was part of their mission statement and they were open about it or open about switching to a pro-life agenda that would be one thing. They would still lose a ton of supporters but at least they'd be honest. Right now they just look like political hacks trying cover their asses while lying to the people who have supported them.
Comment collapsed by the communityNo, sambonner, I do not dispute the right of SGK to give money where they want to give it. I just dispute their right to use MY money to further their politics. And the solution is easy: I will give them no more of my money. They have already lost their luster in the last few years, trying to squelch other, smaller, groups instead of encouraging everyone in the fight, they spend too much of their annual budget on administrative and overhead expenses, and there are other groups- in addition to PP- where my money has a better chance of being effective. This action has only shed light on all the problems with SGK that were already hiding in the shadows.
Funny how Komen gave several million dollars in grant money to Penn State- aren't they under some kind of cloud these days?
Weak, real weak.
If liberals support the cause of beating breast cancer, and 'yesterday' thought Komen was a good, worthwhile leader in that cause, on what hypocritical basis do they change that now?
I understand why pro choice people don't like this, but they are demanding for themselves a right they want to withhold from Komen ( the right to decide who to give your money to).
That's weak? That they are liars and are now taking a political stance in what is supposed to be an apolitical charity is weak? Yeah, okay. There's nothing hypocritical in no longer supporting a charity that lied about their motivations and are defunding the poorest segment of the population the easiest access to women's health.
If they were the only cancer research charity out there maybe, maybe you'd have a point. Since there are many more, you don't.
And please, stop the denying rights bull@!$%#. Nobody is saying Komen can't do whatever the hell they want. Just like nobody is saying donors can't do whatever the hell they want. Rights don't factor into this. That's a ridiculous and disingenuous statement.
And stop saying liberals. There are pro-choice conservatives and anti-choice liberals.
No one has denied the Komen foundation anything, except their support which belongs to the individual to give or deny as they see fit. Just like Komen did PP. See, it's very fair. I hated all that pink anyway, it reminded me of Barbie not cancer.
If liberals support the cause of beating breast cancer, and 'yesterday' thought Komen was a good, worthwhile leader in that cause, on what hypocritical basis do they change that now?
There is no hypocritical basis.
An organization that is supposed to be helping beat breast cancer removed funding for breast exams/mammograms for hundreds of thousands of women who could not afford it otherwise (750,000 breast exams last year through PP, mostly allowed via Komen funding).
While most people think that abortion should be legal, most people don't support the current state of abortion law; polling seems to suggest that the majority either wants abortion to be illegal in all cases, or legal only in the first trimester--and even then, possibly only in the case of rape, incest, and the life of the mother. A majority of people polled say that abortion is morally wrong. And pro-life identification runs neck-in-neck with pro choice.
In that environment, you can see why an organization that does not itself have a mission to support abortion access would want to pull back from funding Planned Parenthood, even for related services.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/02/why-did-susan-g-komen-pull-the-plug-on-planned-parenthood/252438/
#9 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 8:14 AM ESTUnfortunately, while they easily could have declined to fund PP without much backlash, de-funding them sends an extremely explicit message that is probably going to cost them significant public support.
Thanks for posting something that makes my point above.
I will be more then happy when this religious facist is put on a boat to sail down that river to unemployment. This is already back-firing on the Komen Foundation and as they lose money & PP gets extra donations, they will eventually wake up and realize that womens health is more important then political posturing.
#10 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 8:17 AM ESTIs Planned Parenthood trying to cure breast cancer? One would assume you would want to donate to both organizations.
Sambonner: I thought SGK was trying to cure breast cancer, but now I find that they consider their politics more important than that cause. There are other organizations that are actively (and probably more efficiently) working towards that goal, and I will research them and find an alternate to support. I am not abandoning BC issues, only SGK. (Yeah, I know SGK likes to pretend they're the only game in town but they are in for a rude awakening. They've become big bullies, and I don't like bullies.)
One would assume you would want to donate to both organizations.
Well, you know what they say when you assume...
Then sambonner - why don't you donate to both organizations?
I for one have never supported the Komen foundation, now I know I never will.
After we cry a river, can we send her down it with no paddle?
#11 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 8:40 AM ESTIf this does not show that Komen has gone political by accepting this far-right woman as their VP, then everyone is blind. So much for remaining politically neutral.
#12 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 8:45 AM ESTThat you WERE a breast cancer awareness organization that decided to become anti-abortion, but you still want my cancer donations... Cry me a freaking river...
#13 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 8:58 AM ESTThey're a breast cancer awareness organization that was giving money to other organizations that don't provide mammograms, one being certain chapters of Planned Parenthood. So they stopped giving those chapters money. And that doesn't make sense to you?
They're a breast cancer awareness organization that was giving money to other organizations that don't provide mammograms, one being certain chapters of Planned Parenthood. So they stopped giving those chapters money. And that doesn't make sense to you?
It might make sense if that's what happened, but since that's NOT what happened the answer is, "NO, that doesn't make sense"
Sorry BobbyG, I just had to say that. Not putting words in your mouth.
janice,
Planned Parenthood gives vouchers for women to go to facilities that are equipped with mammogram machines and radiologists on hand to read the scans.
What does not make sense to me, is WHY SGK gave $7.5 MILLION to Penn State, who is ALSO under investigation for child molestations. Thus, proving their reasoning to defund PP as the ruse that it is!
janice: Then why is it that they can't produce the name of one single organization besides PP they've stopped funding?
Because it isn't about "investigations" (if it were, they'd not give money to Penn State, nor would they accept money from BoA, both of which are under MULTIPLE investigations).
Nor is it about the fact that PP doesn't directly do mammogram screenings, their SECOND excuse.
It's politics, pure and simple. And once a "charity" kowtows to political pressure, it's no longer worthy of giving hard earned money to.
To say they handled it badly is an understatement. I'm mystified as to why they would even make that announcement, knowing that this documentary was about to be released:
There are people that don't like PP. Get over it.
#14 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:04 AM ESTThere are people that don't like PP. Get over it.
And there are many more that do like PP. Now, you get over it.
Do you care that an organization repeatedly lied to their donors in a 48 hour period and are still doing damage control spinning right now?
There are people who don't like liars. Get over it.
IV: Fine. Then you also won't care who does or does not support Komen, right?
After Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards in March cited 'mammograms' as one of the group's services, an investigation found that none of the 27 Planned Parenthood clinics they contacted in 30 states provided the breast cancer screening.
Imagine that. Planned Parenthood stretching the truth?
#15 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:23 AM ESTHey "Independent"....get a clue:
When a woman goes to her Doctor for a check-up, the Doctor does not roll out a MAMMOGRAM X-RAY.
You get a prescription to get one....and you go to a specialized center for that procedure.
The same service is provided at Planned Parenthood. They hand out VOUCHERS for mammograms.
Your buddy Lila Rose did a smear campaign on PP and claimed FALSELY that PP has nothing to do with Mammograms....
Try doing a little research....you'll find that Lila is hell bent on distorting the truth.
It seems that what you actually know about mammograms is....NOTHING.
15.2....exactly ...where is the "lie".
Your saying they lied is a bit weird if you can't back that up.
THEY HAND OUT VOUCHERS FOR MAMMOGRAMS...that is providing mammograms for women who could not otherwise afford them.
This "lie" campaign you are on is a bit silly.
15.4
The Planned Parenthood video hoax was the work of Live Action, an anti-abortion group founded by controversial young activist Lila Rose.
Okay IV here we go again.
As RI mom pointed out PP does not do the actual mammogram- neither does any OB/GYn.
Screening guidelines suggest that a women get a mammo gram AND a breast exam every year. The breast exam IS something PP can and does do. Then they can refer or voucher for the mammo. Very often women who don't have any or much health insurance can get their mammograms through gov and state sponsored screenings. Here in NY it's call the cancer prevention program.
PP also provides information screening for STD's/HIV, nutrition info, Birth control (both pills AND condoms) and a host of other services OTHER than abortions. Believe it or not many to have counselors on hand to discuss the decision making process with pregnant women.
There are few groups that are as audited and reviewed like PP. They have a very strict accounting system that PROVES where and how ANY money they get in is spent.
Your ignorance of women's health issues is your buisness, however the FACTS show this organization provides a vital role in women's health for those that might not have any or very little health insurance.
Why do I always feel I have to educate some newsviners? Okay here is FactCheck.org and it states 97% of what PLANNED PARENTHOOD provides is WOMENS HEALTH CARE, and only 3% is for Abortions services.
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/
Educate yourself Independent Non thinker....
After Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards in March cited 'mammograms' as one of the group's services, an investigation found that none of the 27 Planned Parenthood clinics they contacted in 30 states provided the breast cancer screening.
Of course, PP doesn't own a bunch of radiology labs - and everyone knows that.
They refer women to the proper sites that agree to work with PP.
Being deliberately obtuse doesn't help discourse.
Why do I always feel I have to educate some newsviners
In many cases, I suspect it is a waste of you time to try.
Sorry, IndependentVoter..
Here's proof positive you are wrong: http://www.sistasofaz.com/documents/FREEMAMO_10.pdf
That is a brochure from 2009, Planned Parenthood providing FREE MAMMOGRAMS because of a donation from the Komer.
Now watch your video again and tell us again with a straight face that the President of Planned Parenthood was lying in that video...
I intend to boycott every corporate sponsor of the Komen Foundation. Join me.
#16 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:25 AM ESTWe should let the corporate sponsors know that we are boycotting them and why.
The successful boycott of Republican/Teaparty Fox crazy rightwing host Glenn Beck had quick and measurable results.
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Karen Handel lost GEORGIA and she will TANK SGK. She is POISON IVY. EPIC overestimate of power and worth. EPIC fail.
#18 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:35 AM EST...and do forget, a good friend of Sarah Palin - go figure.
Komen really knows how to turn a phrase doesn't she.
Her command of the English language just impresses the hell out of me.
But, Komen, FYI, pro-abortion is NOT pro-choice. The two are not synonymous.
How did this woman ever become power in this type of national organization? Someone really missed the ball with this one.
#19 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:51 AM ESTBut, Komen, FYI, pro-abortion is NOT pro-choice. The two are not synonymous.
How did this woman ever become power in this type of national organization? Someone really missed the ball with this one.
Another one who can see Russia from her house, no doubt.
How did this woman ever become power in this type of national organization? Someone really missed the ball with this one.
Probably the same people that vetted shara what's her name.
Wishing you the absolute worst, Karen.
:)
#20 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 9:53 AM ESTIV don't pretend that you are tolerant...I've read far too many of your posts to believe that
"Independent" Voter is anything but ... he's only tolerant when it's the right wing attacking the left.
It has become another group that the GOP is controlling. They objective is to get rid of organizations that help the poor and middle class who they consider a drag on America. Lets get rid of Planned Parenthood, Any insurance company that covers abortion and the girl scouts and the boy scouts and the list goes on and on. Let the GOP fund the Komen Foundation. My wife and I will help fund the PP.
#21 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:14 AM ESTHow can this be justified. A receiver of donations complaining that the donator has stopped giving them donations? Is there any law that mandates a donator to keep on donating anything if the donator does not like to donate anymore?
I am of the opinion that the planned parenthood organization have abused their position by complaining about the cut. I really do not care whether the move was politically motivated or not because to force a donator to keep on supporting a cause that they do not want to donate anymore is terribly wrong. It is a case of the principle that no donator should or must be forced to donate regardless of the cause.
I dread the day when the charities I donate will tell me that I can not stop donating because it is wrong to do so. That's the time when I will not send a single penny to such an organization anymore.
#22 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:21 AM ESTPP has said no such thing. The most they have done is expressed disappointment. The reaction is from former donors to Komen who feel betrayed both by this move and how Komen has repeatedly lied about their reasoning.
Nobody is saying anything like you claim. Nobody is saying a charity can't do what they want with their money. At the same time donors have every right to not donate anymore and that's what is happening.
Nobody is saying anything like you claim. Nobody is saying a charity can't do what they want with their money. At the same time donors have every right to not donate anymore and that's what is happening.
Donors also have the right to express their outrage of a move that is clearly political in nature.
to force a donator to keep on supporting a cause that they do not want to donate anymore is terribly wrong.
And yet we have a high-level SGK member complaining that donors are balking. Aren't you being just a little hypocritical?
This is a typical reaction by those who think, what it yours aught to be theirs.
#24 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 10:56 AM ESTIt's "ought".
The rest of post is so senseless that there's nothing else to respond to.
Thanks Ian, may I see your teaching certificate please?? point is still valid as you provide no rebuttal.
LOL what is that? lilting out loud? Ah, Look On Line?
Wait, you have to have a teaching certificate to know that ought and aught mean two different things?
Oh crap, I'm a reposistory of forbidden knowledge.
:)
point is still valid as you provide no rebuttal.
Point? There is no point in what you said. What you said has absolutely no bearing on DONORS to a charity deciding they are going to stop DONATING to said charity.
tesla: Nice try at twisting what this is really about. Didn't work ... but nice try.
My point is exactly what this is about. In fact it is so correct that three of you felt the need to attempt to invalidate it.
Komen Foundation vs. Planned Parenthood.
I think that the foundation has taken on more than it can handle with this absurd political shift. They have the right to provide funding to whomever they want, but they will find out quickly that their donations will go down much more than the amount of those grants. Komen has decided to politicize themselves. They have made a huge mistake. I, for one, will be forwarding my family's contributions which used to go equally to Komen and PP completely to Planned Parenthood. Komen can seek their funding from the Koch brothers. They've lost all credibility as a legitimate non-profit.
#25 - Fri Feb 3, 2012 11:14 AM ESTWell said. Even with this morning's reversal, my image of Komen has been completely changed, and I will not be giving to them. My funds, when I have them, will go to PP.
...my image of Komen has been completely changed,
It's got me wondering how much charity money is spent on merchandising that pink chit.
It's got me wondering how much charity money is spent on merchandising that pink chit.
The largest proportion of their spending is "Awareness", and that includes the marketing of pink handguns and buckets of KFC high saturated fat chicken that is a cancer risk factor.
Spending on research is down to 20% as of 2009, and they just cut stem cell research funding.
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