Alan Grayson SCHOOLS Paul Broun on Constitution. He will NOT yield!

It's fun to watch the pubs twitch and sputter when they meet a Democrat who's spine is intact. This is just going to get more and more fun to watch. Thanks for the entertainment rickace.

lacto

It's fun to watch the pubs twitch and sputter when they meet a Democrat who's spine is intact.

One spine intact, hundreds without. Keep up the good work.

Is this the @!$%#wit who set up the website for dead people?

Here's a another web site for dead people. Is its creator a @!$%#wit?
The Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall Page

One spine intact, hundreds without. Keep up the good work.

Gotta start somewhere. I'd be scared too.

Is this the @!$%#wit who set up the website for dead people?

Yeah, @!$%# those dead people and the audacity of someone to speak for them! </end sarcasm>

Deplorable.

Is this the @!$%#wit who set up the website for dead people?

Yes. http://www.namesofthedead.com/

MichelleUT

Yeah, @!$%# those dead people and the audacity of someone to speak for them!

It's a political ploy Einstein, and a macabre one at that. Did you look at that website? Grayson is exploiting their deaths to prosecute his agendas against the opposing party and to get legislation for Democratic health care "reform" crammed through Congress. Let's see how that's going ... Max Baucus has been bought and paid for by the suits in the industry. Curiously absent from that graphic are lobbyists for the People of the United States. Hmmm ... the suits will get richer but ...

Further, the list of the deceased is wide open to exploitation by Grayson's henchmen or random Democratic sympathizers who could easily fabricate names and stories and then enter them into the website. No doubt that's happened already.

Deplorable.

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

Yeah, that's why I wrote it on YOUR post, remember?

You lost any cred and respect from me when you referred to Grayson as a @!$%#wit. Real mature, there, ace. You want to know why the GOP was kicked out? Attitudes like yours.

MichelleUT

You lost any cred and respect from me when you referred to Grayson as a @!$%#wit. Real mature, there, ace.

Oh, please. I like to punctuate some posts with profanity. So what? At least I provide substance (#4.7) and not mindless adulation like "I love this man! Can we make him Emperor of Florida or something?" (#1)

You want to know why the GOP was kicked out? Attitudes like yours.

Yeah, and now we're stuck with The Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight. Out of the frying pan and into the fire isn't turning out to be a very good move.

Speaking of attitudes, I'm rather fond of mine ;-}

He has been targeted by the RNC in 2010, but so far, they are having trouble finding a candidate to run against him.

Good!!!

They found some 28 year old in Coral Gables (or Springs) - I think the kid's ass just puckered.

Gee rickace - Are you the only one out trolling - I just saw you over on another thread spewing the same crap. Can I ask what insurace company do you work for? Wait I know you're that pitbull with lipstick Sarah was talking about. Geez and Pffft.

DEBEKI

Gee rickace - Are you the only one out trolling

Go figure. I drew the short straw.

you know it's bad for the opposition when they have to bring people in from outside the district to run against someone.

Go figure. I drew the short straw.

Your brain surely did.

MichelleUT

Your brain surely did.

Troll much?

Troll much?

Na, wouldn't want to take your job. Besides, with someone like yourself referring to the Rep as a @!$%#wit, then mentioning short straws? You walked right into that one.

Epic.. Greyson is doing his job.. what he was elected to do.. WTF is up with the rest of the congress?

Simply amazing.. this man is truly of the people and for the people..

MichelleUT

Na, wouldn't want to take your job.

My job is to confront the fact that there's no Chistmas tree for the poor. No turkey at Thanksgivng. One hundred children on Long Island whose moms can't scare up enough food to match what they get during the week in school.

no, acorn was "targeted" b/c of voter registration fraud. (Notice I didn't say voter fraud.)

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Debatable...

However, as far the whole "bill of attainder" thingy goes, Grayson was spot on the money and Broun did indeed look like a stumbling fool...

Sooooooooooo... Li'l Feller... how did Grayson "crap all over the First Amendment"???

it's amazing how you get 4 votes and you don't even know how to connect the dots.

"he further, in another msnbc video said fox was the real enemy of america." (from above)

what, did you get the cliff notes version of the Constitution? or are you to busy yelling "Yeah go grayson!" that the other vid means nada? guess that whole freedom of speech thing was too over-rated?

Gee...

And still no explanation of how Grayson managed to "crap all over the Constitution"...

Kind of explains why you're not getting ANY votes, huh?

What... Fox can make up any insane gibberish it wants, but if anyone dares push back, it's "Constitutional rights time!"???

Sooooooooooo... Li'l Feller... what about Grayson's First Amendment rights?

How, specifically, did he limit or abridge, Fox's rights?

Because, so far, you haven't said anything... just made wild claims you can't back up.

ok, i was wrong, it IS obvious that you can't connect the dots and need someone to hold your hand for you and explain it, my bad.

Grayson, to his credit, nailed the (R) on the unconstitutionality of the bill that was being discussed, and went so far as to mention Madison and the Federalist papers.

He THEN goes out and agrees with Obama that not only is fox NOT a real news organization, but that they in fact are a "real enemy of america."

Putting political bs aside here, Grayson KNOWS about the constitution, (obviously) yet finds nothing wrong with trying to help Obama censor, malign fox's credibility, completely ignoring the very first amendment, freedom of speech.

(and please don't start that old tirade about "fire" bs)

the bottom line here is Grayson knows better, and chooses to go the crony route, when it's obvious that he not only knows better, but is more educated about the constitution than most, (or knows how to do homework better) and yet chooses to argue one part of the constituition, and yet completely care less about the other.

there, feel better? would you like a nap now? maybe some cookies?

Boy jeffypoo. you are just like that double dipwad moron from georgia, you don't understand the Constitution either.

The 1st Amendment, quote

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Don't see diddly squat about the president or the Supreme Court for that matter.

And, neither Congressman Grayson NOR Pres. Obama are in anyway restricting faux noise agitprop from spewing it's treasonous lies, they simply called them treasonous liars, which may be a matter for a civil case, though truth is an absolute defense against the torts of slander and libel.

no, acorn was "targeted" b/c of voter registration fraud. (Notice I didn't say voter fraud.)

I noticed. ::golfclap::

Now, did ACORN perpetrate voter registration fraud or did it follow election law to a tee?

Epic @!$%#-slapping.

Wow, a real live servant of the people.

The constitution actually means something to him, and he acrually gets upset when it's being violated.

Are you listening Nancy?

BV-

Was it proved that the registration fraud systemic or just a few rogue idiots trying to game ACORN's pay-per-registration payment system?

Remember ACORN turned these clowns in themselves.

an organization accepting money and destroying the Constitution,

Kinda like the folks who accepted government money for "faith-based initiatives"? Nothing unconstitutional about religious groups taking government money, even if some of them want to practice religious descrimination or set up this country as a theocracy, right?

Even funnier, his attempt to "save" Acorn, a major Democratic organization...

Who says ACORN is a Democratic organization?

Who says ACORN is a Democratic organization?

Case in point, McCain was their spokesman a year or two before the '08 election cycle.

Hey Socrates1-

So are you amazed at yourself when you quote the constitution after you most likely kept your mouth shut while Bush shredded the 4th?

In such a short statement you managed to fit in about 99% BS

That's not easy, congrats.

Guess what jimster--wrong on all counts. As usual with many on the vine-you seem to enjoy telling me what I think and what my motives are and yet cannot articulate your own.

Frankly, those of you who continue to make excuses for ACORN make me sick and wonder what your true agenda is.

My ideals stay the same regardless of person--how about you?

I don't make excuses for doing wrong---how about you?

DEBEKI

I do believe "W" wiped his ass with the constitution

When all else fails, bring up Bush. You lefties are so predictable.

When all else fails, bring up Bush. You lefties are so predictable.

We're making up for all the Carter bashing that's accumulated over the past thirty years. Problem is, bringing up Bush IS relevant because a lot of the crapsplatter happened on Bush's watch and he'd rather pass the buck then fix it himself.

Arad

We're making up for all the Carter bashing that's accumulated over the past thirty years.

Yeah, that sure furthers a debate.

Problem is, bringing up Bush IS relevant because a lot of the crapsplatter happened on Bush's watch and he'd rather pass the buck then fix it himself.

If you're talking about the economic collapse, there wasn't a damned thing he could have done about it. What he did do though (signing TARP into law) was dead wrong.

Now. It's been nine months. When are you going to stop blaming stuff on Bush and hold Obama accountable for his own @!$%#ups?

Hmmm?

Yeah, that sure furthers a debate.

And your "When all else fails, bring up Bush. You lefties are so predictable" is somehow more productive? The pot calling the kettle black doesn't change the fact that the pot is still black.

If you're talking about the economic collapse, there wasn't a damned thing he could have done about it.

If the president isn't held responsible for not preventing an economic collapse, how can we hold another president responsible for failing to fix it?

What he did do though (signing TARP into law) was dead wrong.

Won't argue that.

Now. It's been nine months. When are you going to stop blaming stuff on Bush and hold Obama accountable for his own @!$%#ups?

Again, why should Obama be held responsible for not fixing the economy after less than a year when Bush isn't being held responsible for not averting the crisis on his watch? It's tantamount to a security guard complaining that the cops couldn't stop a robbery when the security guard was asleep through most of it.

Arad

If the president isn't held responsible for not preventing an economic collapse, how can we hold another president responsible for failing to fix it?

I already hold President Obama responsible for several epic miscues as documented in that link, but will not blame him one iota for not "fixing" the economy. It's simply not within his power or that of Congress to do so, although I'm not sure if he's aware of that yet.

I expect to be in the minority though. Most Americans have swallowed the notion that the stimulus is potent and can do what it's advertised to do. That miscue will come back to bite the president on his butt. If he'd listened to little ole me instead of Ben Bernanke, he could have sidestepped the whole mess and we'd not be going needlessly close to one trillion dollars deeper into debt.

And your point is?????

Specifically, as to point 1 and Sen. Byrd, quote, from the Constitution,

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

Seems the Senate has a lot of say in appointments by the president.

and, as to point 2, that was MP George Galloway, who gave one normie 'the teeth' coleman, the late senator from Minnesota, now replaced by Senator Al Franken, the asswhooping he deserved.

To quote one of the many things he had to say to normie, "Now I know that standards have slipped over the last few years in Washington, but for a lawyer, you are remarkably cavalier with any idea of justice..."

General consensus, even by our idiot news media, MP Galloway made chairman normie and his little band of repub hyenas look like a bunch of low grade morons.

Thanks Tom for the specifics there.. I wish i was a little better searching congressional records.. i'd of found the quotes from both.. but i came up blank on my searches.

yes-- old Byrd--the ex KKK member. lol

No, no, no, NO!
While Grayson is effective doing what he does, (not afraid to have a tussle with those on the other side of the aisle), to give him such a powerful position as Speaker would limit his ability to play to his strengths.

Now, Whip might be a good place for him.

He's a great tactician but needs a strong hand to guide him strategically so that he doesn't end up painting himself into a corner and becoming useless and ineffectual.

He'll eventually tire of this and leave congress of his own accord......AS IT SHOULD BE.
I'd give him, oh, say, 5 terms tops.

He'll have to moderate his style somewhat if he plans on moving to the Senate where this sort of stuff is frowned upon by both parties.

Mr. Grayson is in full control of himself and things around him. The

[The] Congressman should stick to his standards and trust his instincts. He is a leader he needs to set the tone not follow stranger's advice.

He's an attack dog, (not intended as an insult), as such he must be free-range at this point of things. To tie him down with internal "offices" would limit his ability to do what he does best: strip the Republican gilding from their naked ignorance of the constitution and their policies which would further the status quo, (which, after all, is what conservatism is all about, supposedly).

I might concede the point of his "needing" a strong hand to guide him since whenever this is done the person becomes another DC-drone, politics as usual.

Whether he is a leader though remains to be seen. "Taking the point" is admirable in a leader but if he's caught in no-man's land without a retinue of followers he'll be cut down in short order.

It was just too funny.. did you notice Paul Broun had the answers on a piece of paper, and still couldn't read them fluently. His fellow Republicans were trying to step in and save the day, and Grayson just kept standing on his throat and letting him squirm.

Michael Crowley

His fellow Republicans were trying to step in and save the day, and Grayson just kept standing on his throat and letting him squirm.

Had I the same advantage as Grayson did, I'd have pushed it just as hard. He did quite a job on Broun there.

Michael Crowley-

I could clearly see one gray haired gentleman putting his fingers to his temple, thinking "Oh the pain, the pain! God, just let this day end!"